Post by Andrew Thiel on May 31, 2007 21:33:13 GMT -5
Ok im getting sick and tired of people dissing clones, or LPEGs or MPEGs. I have one personaly and also have worked on others. These things are taking 300 dollar guns and putting them into mass production (ford ring a bell to anyone?) for the better of the sport. Comon people whats so bad about the clone? The fact that its d**n near 1/3rd the price? The fact that it takes the best features from the big three? Maybe its the fact that people are paying less money that YOU.
Somebody decided a while ago that because your not spending 300 or more on an AEG than you dont deserve to get respect. Or at the very least, your AEG doesnt deserve respect.
Thats BS to the fullest extent. You all dont allow one person to say dont buy a Tokyo Marui because Classic Army is so much better, but clone bashing is allowed across the boards.
My JG M4 was shooting 400 with a shim job, metal bushings, and a tightbore, and went along just fine for about 5000 rounds, before i decided to lower the FPS because of MEDs. Try that with you stupid (explitive)ing Marui.
Yes im a little heated about this issue. But i happen to be a clone advocate, and while i may jest about the inablities of Classic Army and the rest of the big three, i dont go around bashing them on the boards.
In the short time ive been in airsoft, ive seen MORE of the big three have problems than the clones, and im around the clones all the time, 5 people i know personally have clones, including myself and i see them out performing they're CA counterparts on a regular basis.
What are all of your opinions based off of exactly? The majority that ive seen is the simple fact that you dont think that people should have an AEG thats on par or just slightly under yours for 1/3rd the cost because you've been "paying that price for years" With all do respect, shove that attitude where the sun dont shine.
If you dont like Clones fine. If you dont like marui's fine. Personally im not a huge fan of CA, not that i wouldnt buy one, but its not my favorite company by far.
I constantly see, "Just save your money and buy a TM or CA its better in the long run"
HOW THE (explitive) WOULD YOU KNOW?!?! The people saying this are the ones who have never owned a (explitive)ing clone.
Many times ive wanted to post right after that and say "how about not wasting your money on a CA or TM and get a clone"
I mean comon, no they may not be as reliable as TMs, they may not feel as real as CAs, they may not be as inovative as ICSs but they sure do (explitive)ing work. I have many kills with my JG and im sure most of them were apont the big three users. Im no expert in airsoft, and im most definatly not the best player out there, but i do know mechanics and if it works well, for less why the hell not?
The same thing happened with the automotive industry. Ford started out big (Toyko Marui) then General Motors took over as industry leader (Classic Army) and the whole time Chrysler was tagging along behind them with new and different inovations.(ICS) Then, Toyota and Honda (clones) and now Toyota is the number 1 car manufacturer in the world.
Not to mention clones are good for airsoft. A. more players can get into airsoft and find out they like it for a cheaper price.
B. Retailers can generate more interest because of a lower cost alternative.
C. It forces the big three to make even better AEGs for lower costs to compete.
For along time you all had to be satisfied with what Toyko Marui and Classic Army put out, because thats all there is, then ICS came along, and it seems to me that both companys stepped up they're game.
I could go on about this for along time, but this is all i can put into words right now.
Im asking that you stop clone bashing just because your a "vet" and think you know everything about the different wepons out there, if you have a personal experience with something then go ahead and voice your opinion about it. Dont just go around saying its not as good, because i say so. When you disrespect my AEG i feel disrespected and its BS.
Somebody decided a while ago that because your not spending 300 or more on an AEG than you dont deserve to get respect. Or at the very least, your AEG doesnt deserve respect.
Thats BS to the fullest extent. You all dont allow one person to say dont buy a Tokyo Marui because Classic Army is so much better, but clone bashing is allowed across the boards.
My JG M4 was shooting 400 with a shim job, metal bushings, and a tightbore, and went along just fine for about 5000 rounds, before i decided to lower the FPS because of MEDs. Try that with you stupid (explitive)ing Marui.
Yes im a little heated about this issue. But i happen to be a clone advocate, and while i may jest about the inablities of Classic Army and the rest of the big three, i dont go around bashing them on the boards.
In the short time ive been in airsoft, ive seen MORE of the big three have problems than the clones, and im around the clones all the time, 5 people i know personally have clones, including myself and i see them out performing they're CA counterparts on a regular basis.
What are all of your opinions based off of exactly? The majority that ive seen is the simple fact that you dont think that people should have an AEG thats on par or just slightly under yours for 1/3rd the cost because you've been "paying that price for years" With all do respect, shove that attitude where the sun dont shine.
If you dont like Clones fine. If you dont like marui's fine. Personally im not a huge fan of CA, not that i wouldnt buy one, but its not my favorite company by far.
I constantly see, "Just save your money and buy a TM or CA its better in the long run"
HOW THE (explitive) WOULD YOU KNOW?!?! The people saying this are the ones who have never owned a (explitive)ing clone.
Many times ive wanted to post right after that and say "how about not wasting your money on a CA or TM and get a clone"
I mean comon, no they may not be as reliable as TMs, they may not feel as real as CAs, they may not be as inovative as ICSs but they sure do (explitive)ing work. I have many kills with my JG and im sure most of them were apont the big three users. Im no expert in airsoft, and im most definatly not the best player out there, but i do know mechanics and if it works well, for less why the hell not?
The same thing happened with the automotive industry. Ford started out big (Toyko Marui) then General Motors took over as industry leader (Classic Army) and the whole time Chrysler was tagging along behind them with new and different inovations.(ICS) Then, Toyota and Honda (clones) and now Toyota is the number 1 car manufacturer in the world.
Not to mention clones are good for airsoft. A. more players can get into airsoft and find out they like it for a cheaper price.
B. Retailers can generate more interest because of a lower cost alternative.
C. It forces the big three to make even better AEGs for lower costs to compete.
For along time you all had to be satisfied with what Toyko Marui and Classic Army put out, because thats all there is, then ICS came along, and it seems to me that both companys stepped up they're game.
I could go on about this for along time, but this is all i can put into words right now.
Im asking that you stop clone bashing just because your a "vet" and think you know everything about the different wepons out there, if you have a personal experience with something then go ahead and voice your opinion about it. Dont just go around saying its not as good, because i say so. When you disrespect my AEG i feel disrespected and its BS.